Job Advice

tim2x · 28-03-2006, 11:27 PM

hey guys.

me and my friend just came outta year 12, well, and its the time we're looking for jobs. altho he is doing TAFE full time.

I did work at a factory for a few weeks but it shut down... heh that wasnt bad.

but wondering from you experienced people, what would you guys suggest i should have a look at applying at? im more of a hands on person, hence why i want to apply at a few factory type places, i dont know if i wanna start working FULL TIME straight away or look for part time... but ive noticed theres not much out there for part time work...

Alright cheer's guys

StorminaTcup · 29-03-2006, 12:02 AM

Get your name down at a few agencies. More often than not this leads to full time work if the Company is pleased with you.

crannersEL · 29-03-2006, 12:03 AM

Keep your eye out in the local paper, and apply through centrelink or the salvo job search agencies. My mate went through one of them and got a job within weeks. Good job and pays very well!

Get your Resume sorted out and get your name out there man

lukey · 29-03-2006, 12:12 AM

If you want a job that will set you up with something, have a look at doing an apprentiship or traineeship. Some good places are apprentiships victoria, MEGT, VicTec, ect.

falcon91 · 29-03-2006, 09:39 AM

Join the RAAF! Good pay, work with your hands, meet new people and BOMB them! Just kidding, try the defence force.

Mack 6 · 29-03-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by falcon91

Join the RAAF! Good pay, work with your hands, meet new people and BOMB them! Just kidding, try the defence force.

I agree, bRAAF or Navy, but don't go to the army... They run everywhere and have sucked the life out of me.

RAAF and Navy have big multi million dollar items of equipment to carry you everywhere.... plus if you look at a trade stream, the range of options in these two branches are far superior......You can do an apprenticeship in most areas.

Although, you do have to put up with the army calling you a bunch of pussies....not me tho!

rapidxr6 · 29-03-2006, 04:51 PM

There is some good advice here but the best i can give is GET A TRADE under your belt. i've had over 12 years permanant employment in a factory you go no where..just backwards especially when the 'do littles', 'hoover lips' and 'sit on my bum' types seem to get all the promotions and overtime. Get a trade and go a little further if you can.. also i pity the new generation of workers just coming out of school walking into the very messy new I.R laws.!!.
Good luck with it timx2, hope some doors open up for ya real soon mate.

parawolf · 29-03-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack 6

I agree, bRAAF or Navy, but don't go to the army... They run everywhere and have sucked the life out of me.

RAAF and Navy have big multi million dollar items of equipment to carry you everywhere.... plus if you look at a trade stream, the range of options in these two branches are far superior......You can do an apprenticeship in most areas.

Although, you do have to put up with the army calling you a bunch of pussies....not me tho!

Yup i'll push this one as well - go for the defence force, others can speak for which area is better or worse, and the trade skills you can get in the defence force will be second to none in the commerical world.

Pay is acceptable, benefits are acceptable, on the job training is excellent.

Gimmers55 · 29-03-2006, 05:57 PM

Have to agree with the Defence Force idea but it isn't for everyone. I'd go Navy but that's just my bias. Trade training is available in numerous areas including technical, hospitality, aviation, computing and so on. There are also lots of non technical training opportunities as well.

You do 11 weeks at Recruit School (general introduction to military life) in Victoria and then move onto your trade specialisation. This may take up to 1.5 years full-time and is followed by more hands on competency development. The pay starts at around 25K for a recruit, then goes up to about 29K during trade traning. When you are qualified, and depending on your trade you will receive up to 44K. The average is around 38-39K. That is as a private (equivalent). It goes up from there. You also get another 9.5K approx allowance once qualified that is paid to all personnel up to the rank of Lieutenent Commander (Major equivalent). Once you get your competency log completed (hands on skills development), you get promoted to Able Seaman. There is also the option of changing over to Officer rank later.

You usually commit to a six year initial period of employment. As I said before, it isn't for everyone so think carefully before you take it on, which is the same for most things I guess.

One more thing. If anyone takes up this option and heads off to a recruiting office, do NOT take an offer in a Navy trade area other than the one you want to get into. If this means waiting for awhile until a suitable position comes up, then so be it. Taking a lower preference just so you can get your foot in the door may cause disappointment.

Good luck.

DOC · 29-03-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tim2x

but wondering from you experienced people, what would you guys suggest Alright cheer's guys

Find your passion and do it well.

fiery · 29-03-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DOC

Find your passion and do it well.

have to agree with DOC on this... you can work at hundreds of different jobs and not do one well, not enjoy one.. but you find what you are passionate about and give it your best, you will do it better than well and you will love it.

Dark Horse · 29-03-2006, 06:19 PM

Get a trade, when you're on full wages working full time go and do a degree part time to further open your options at some point later on.

cedric · 29-03-2006, 11:29 PM

get a trade in construction carpenter plumber lecy etc big money and the whole of australia is calling out for tradies once you have a trade you will get work anywhere anytime

Dark Horse · 30-03-2006, 05:54 AM

Landscaping is another big money item.

Wokkas · 30-03-2006, 07:20 PM

Although I agree get a trade, as I'm a tradesman myself, it's all very well in saying that, as my trade- fitter & turner (toolmaker, mechanical engineer, machinist, call it what you like) was something I always wanted to be.

Your first task - decide what YOU want to do with your life.

Forget money for now- work out what you want to spend 8 hours a day for the rest of your life doing. You may find a fantastic paying job, with a good future, but you may absolutally dispise going to work each day, and lead a miserable life.

You can't ask us what you want to do mate. You need to get out there and work out what YOU want to spend the rest of your life doing.

Living in the city is such a disadvantage to blue collar aspiraring young lads.

Good trades at the monent are:
Electricain,
Plumber,
Brick layer,
Builder,
etc etc.

turboute · 30-03-2006, 07:43 PM

You really have not said what you want to do with your life - Or how you went in you schooling. If you have no ties (GF - Dont give a stuff about leaving your friends & family) Then definitely join the navy / airforce, you will get to see alot of the world and get many experiences very quickly. Later many companies will like that on you resume. the fact that you have gone up and above what they usually do.

Personally I have no training but got into drafting and have been industry taught - earn about 75-80k (not bad for a 23yr/old) year if i keep full time hours. however I have started uni and am doing mechanical eng.

For the short term try to get in with a temp company - you will at least have some cash to play with. I did this between jobs about 3 years ago - I was usually working 3-5 days a week and started about 2 days after I signed up.

coyote · 30-03-2006, 08:33 PM

I think the general theme has to be to get involved in a trade, I have to second that but remember it does not have to be the one and only type of work you ever do in life. I have a couple of friends (and a brother) thet went into the forces, certainly not the life for me, I will do as I am told but if it is wrong or can be done a better way I want to be able to say so, and then demonstrate how.

A trade will give you a good background and instill the characteristics needed for quality workmanship, It demonstrates that you have the ability to stick at something and can lead to various areas of specialisation.

Funy thing education when I left school i swore balck and blue that i would never study again except for the required tafe stuff. (you can tell from my spelling and grammer that i still do not posess great accademic skills) By the time i was a 3rd year i was studying 3 nights a week, had better qualifications when i finished my time than the tradseman that i worked with. I have now qualifications in business, and marketing and it is no great weight to carry.

I am a Boilermaker by trade, specialised in High quality work, chased companies that made unusual things and enjoyed far greater benifits that the crew i worked with, did a lot of traveling learned how to adapt to the situation around me, this led to an oportunity to rep for a welding company and specialised in sales all be it with a technical edge, this led to working for myself, so there is three careers in 24 years, so in the next 15 - 20 i should have time to do about two more,

With the right attitude, confidence, and qualifications nothing will stand in your way to be as successfull as you want.

The other point is that navel gazing never achieved anything, get out there and make mistakes, create something and enjoy life, but most of all drive a Ford.

lukey · 30-03-2006, 09:10 PM

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...but most of all drive a Ford.

amen to that

b2tf · 30-03-2006, 10:35 PM

Dont work for Ford.

Valknutr · 31-03-2006, 01:01 AM

I was an apprentice (mech eng) got halfway through 2nd and got shafted (my fault) now i work for Starcity, earn a bit over 600 a week after 3 weeks training (unpaid)
Down side is i have to work any day of the year, i dont usually get sat or sun off, usually 2 days a week during the week.
But plus side is in 3 months i get minor games (pay rise) and then another 3 months a major game (pay rise) and so on and so forth
Oh yeah free food (up to 4 meals a day if you want) and uniform is pressed and cleaned and there are some mighty fine people working there, plus you get the joy (haha) of working with fun fun fun customers for 8 hours a day.....
Damn i should work in recruitment
:evilsasmo

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Scott · 04-04-2006, 04:38 PM

Get a trade. By the time you're 25 or 30, tradies will be rare and expensive.

4.9 EF Futura · 04-04-2006, 05:01 PM

Another vote for getting some sort of defined skill - a trade, a tertiary qualification, whatever. Pick something you like and specialise.

We move closer and closer to other countries in the world - frankly i wouldnt want to be competing for unskilled work with someone who can live on $20/day.... as others have mentioned - a trade will set you up well for the future. Computers cant build houses, cant install electrical/plumbing gear...

Good luck. Interesting period of someone's life isnt it?

nobbystang · 04-04-2006, 08:17 PM

I've gotta put another one in here for the Defence Force. I did an apprenticeship before joining and didn't earn anywhere near as much once qualified as i did by joining the Navy. 6-18 months taining and be earning +45k, can't beat them dollars, no chance of redundancies and pay is in the bank every fortnight. Have had my time in the Navy and loved it but it wasn't for me, trying the raaf now and finding that more my style. Just make sure whatever you get into gives you something when you get out. Seems like there's plenty of advice here to from current members if you have any questions.