BYD Shark 6 - tow test by Car Expert

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by nibble

I think Fords approach with their upcoming Hybrid that keeps the traditional drive-line with the electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission is a better idea. There is something to be said about being able to "mechanically" lock front to rear and left to right drive.

How are these PHEV’s going to fair when one reverses their boat down the boat ramp a bit to far and the batteries get a bit of salt water exposure?

One hopes Trump’s win and return to power is going to change the direction the automotive industry is heading and throw vehicle manufacturers a lifeline. The direction the market is currently going is dire to manufacturers. How do you sell a vehicle that no one wants. There’s always going to be a number of cucks and soy boys who lap up this Chinese junk, but anyone after a 4WD for towing long distances and/or long distance driving will lean towards diesel or petrol only.

[XR Martin]

You know working conditions are bad when the Brazilians shut down your factory construction for its treatment of its workers.
This is what the traditional car companies have to compete with.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-...bour/104762358

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

You know working conditions are bad when the Brazilians shut down your factory construction for its treatment of its workers.
This is what the traditional car companies have to compete with.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-...bour/104762358

The joke here is Brazil allowing BYD to bring in Chinese labour to build the factory rather than partner with a Brazilian construction company employing Brazilians,

You can't give Chinese companies an inch, they're shifty ****s.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by jpd80

John Cardigan actually did a good dissection of the the 3 kilo newton test and showed how
that amount of dynamic load is highly unlikely on any Aussie roads. He showed the equivalent
grade for three different circumstances
- unladen Ute driving up a 11% grade
- full GVM loaded Ute up a 9% grade
- Max GCM Ute driving up a 5% grade

The point being is those grades on public roads are normally speed limited to 60 kph for safety
so even with depleted battery, the Shark 6 can climb those grades with engine power only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JUewoRiLc0

Cadogan has focused too much on the theory and failed to take into account real world situations.

The elevation examples he explains has the battery at full charge.
Reality is many owners will encounter hills with these on long trips where the ICE engine will do the work because they’ve already used up the battery and 135kw isn’t going to be too flash at pulling 5+ tonne over a decent hill.

Another real world condition not accounted for is towing a large trailer/camper, enclosed car trailer, horse float etc with huge frontal area into a head or side wind, throw a slight elevation into the mix and it will simulate what Paul experienced towing that trailer.

[whynot]

Originally Posted by Romulus

How are these PHEV’s going to fair when one reverses their boat down the boat ramp a bit to far and the batteries get a bit of salt water exposure?

Should be just fine up to its rated wading depth. The electricals are probably rated at IP67 or IP68 rating.

There are plenty of electric motors that operate in far worst conditions. For example, a fully submersible sewerage grinder pumps sits in a catch tank of raw sewerage 24 X 7. The PH of raw sewerage is anywhere between PH 9 (alkaline) when fresh, down to a PH 6 (acid) when septic. Also in the poo mix is ammonia and nitrates.

Going for a wade in salt water is nothing. But, like all vehicles, it should be rinsed off with fresh water afterwards.

[kevino]

Mate you know your excrement!
Franco and you could have a long discussion.
Good points you have made here

[Charliewool]

Talking shit I reckon…..

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by whynot

Should be just fine up to its rated wading depth. The electricals are probably rated at IP67 or IP68 rating.

There are plenty of electric motors that operate in far worst conditions. For example, a fully submersible sewerage grinder pumps sits in a catch tank of raw sewerage 24 X 7. The PH of raw sewerage is anywhere between PH 9 (alkaline) when fresh, down to a PH 6 (acid) when septic. Also in the poo mix is ammonia and nitrates.

Going for a wade in salt water is nothing. But, like all vehicles, it should be rinsed off with fresh water afterwards.

Here is an image of exactly what he's talking about, there's some motors submerged underneath this lovely pool

Anything thats not zinc galvanised in the immediate vicinity corrodes very quickly too from H2S exposure from the gasses this stuff releases.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by smoo

Cadogan has focused too much on the theory and failed to take into account real world situations.

The elevation examples he explains has the battery at full charge.
Reality is many owners will encounter hills with these on long trips where the ICE engine will do the work because they’ve already used up the battery and 135kw isn’t going to be too flash at pulling 5+ tonne over a decent hill.

Another real world condition not accounted for is towing a large trailer/camper, enclosed car trailer, horse float etc with huge frontal area into a head or side wind, throw a slight elevation into the mix and it will simulate what Paul experienced towing that trailer.

Indeed, what I would prefer to see is a tow test from say, Penrith to Mount Victoria
in both fully charged and near discharged states, maybe two vehicles travelling together.
Hopefully, we will see more real world tests to actually show if any problems show up.
Towing a Dino trailer is one form of evidence but nothing beats actual real world experience..