Vfacts May 2011

[csv8]

I haven't updated my BF Mk 2 Ghia as the G6E isn't much different in style or equipment. The G6E should have the same equipment as the Mondeo Titanium.
I have looked at the Mondeo and would consider it if the BF no longer meets my specifications. Calais V V8 is on my radar..FORD has nothing in the price range. FPV is too expensive..If I was looking at FPV..THE HSV Senator would win..
End of my rant..

[naddis01]

Any other figures yet? How did Mondeo go? Were those 2 months just a blip on the radar and has it settled back to its <500/month? Mazda 6 only sold 425 for the month so I would say Mondeo is still ahead of it for 2nd in the Medium class.

Commodore has regained its number 1 position this month albeit by only 200 odd units.


http://www.ozmazdaclub.com/newsroom/...breakdown.html

Top Ten Sales By Marque (Marque - Monthly Sales)

1.Holden - 11,115
2.Toyota - 11,04
3.Hyundai - 7,444
4.Ford - 6,830
5.Mazda - 5,941
6.Nissan - 5,093
7.Mitsubishi - 4,691
8.Volkswagen - 3,625
9.Subaru - 2,454
10.Kia - 2,353
Total Market - 77,406

Top Ten Sales By Marque (Marque - YTD Sales)

1.Toyota - 72,614
2.Holden - 49,743
3.Ford - 36,008
4.Mazda - 35,170
5.Hyundai - 34,444
6.Nissan - 27,599
7.Mitsubishi - 25,283
8.Subaru - 15,642
9.Volkswagen - 15,415
10.Honda - 12,191
Total Market - 400,084

Top Ten Sales by Model (Marque/Model - Monthly Sales)

1.Holden Commodore - 3,504
2.Toyota Hilux - 3,162
3.Holden Cruze - 2,914
4.Mazda Mazda3 - 2,797
5.Hyundai i30 - 2,479
6.Nissan Navara - 1,983
7.Volkswagen Golf - 1,864
8.Hyundai Getz - 1,730
9.Ford Ranger - 1,520
10.Toyota Camry - 1,499

Top Ten Sales by Model (Marque/Model - YTD Sales)

1.Holden Commodore - 17,223
2.Mazda Mazda3 - 17,000
3.Toyota Hilux - 15,462
4.Toyota Corolla - 13,624
5.Holden Cruze - 12,942
6.Hyundai i30 - 11,715
7.Nissan Navara - 9,996
8.Hyundai Getz - 8,533
9.Mitsubishi Lancer - 7,779
10.Mitsubishi Triton - 7,734

Mazda Model Breakdown (Model - Monthly Sales - YTD Sales)

Mazda2 - 1,040 - 6,808
Mazda3 - 2,782 - 16,876
Mazda3 MPS - 15 - 124
Mazda6 - 425 - 2,301
MX-5 - 40 - 154
RX-8 - 9 - 41
CX-7 - 577 - 3,459
CX-9 - 241 - 1,331
BT-50 4X2 - 433 - 2,271
BT-50 4X4 - 379 - 1,805

[russellw]

The first set of graphical data is now uploaded in the Tech area.

Cheers
Russ

[MrZ]

It's kind of ironic that the Falcon is not doing well now. Remember how forward thinking Ford were back in 2005 when they introduced the ZF 6-speed auto? I mean, who else had 6-speeds back then aside from BMW?

[Falcman0o7]

I'm going to be sick.
Thanks alot ford for doing ******* all.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

I'm going to be sick.
Thanks alot ford for doing ******* all.

Funny how all the critics are really upset by low sales results yet Ford, who stand to lose the most
are seemingly comfortable, even to the point of predicting possible production increases in 2012.

Maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt for a few months more
and see how the new Territory fares in the market and the uptake of EcoLIP.
Those two elements may be responsible for a huge lift in sales in the comming months.

Have patience is all I'm saying...

[prydey]

most of the experts critics on here won't be happy until the falcon reaches figures above 3000units/month. those days are gone, so the critics will just keep sticking the boots in until the end that they predict, happens, without realising they are contributing to the problem by continually bagging the car and the company at every opportunity.

meanwhile, the ford (not falcon) motor company continues to increase in sales of nearly every other model.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by prydey

most of the experts critics on here won't be happy until the falcon reaches figures above 3000units/month. those days are gone

However Holden sells (actually no, Holden dealers license them) over 3000 Commodore variants per month so it does beg the question...why?

And yes...it's Ford Motor Company of Australia...not Falcon Motor Company of Australia.

[mcnews]

If they can get switched on with good marketing pushes behind the new Focus and Territory things should hopefully take a turn for the better. Otherwise there will be lots of Ford dealers shutting their doors.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

However Holden sells (actually no, Holden dealers license them) over 3000 Commodore variants per month so it does beg the question...why?

i know many don't agree, but i believe australians in general believe the holden is australian and throw their support behind it. many buyers of commodores wouldn't even research the competition. they'd just decide they'd like a new larger car and automatically go to a holden dealer.

hows that old jingle go? football, meatpies, kangaroos and holden cars!!

thats just my opinion.

i also don't believe there is any proof that there is a link between marketing and sales. if holden stopped advertising the commodore would it lose many sales? i actually rarely see commodore ads anywhere anyway. the camry/aurion get virtually no airtime and yet they still manage to sell an average amount of units every month. its just an easy thing for upset fans to point the finger at.

critisizing ford and falcon has been going on for over 10years now and falcon is still here, and is arguably the best falcon ever built.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

However Holden sells (actually no, Holden dealers license them) over 3000 Commodore variants per month so it does beg the question...why?

And yes...it's Ford Motor Company of Australia...not Falcon Motor Company of Australia.

Remember when FG was released and I think it sold close to 3000 for the first few months and we were saying that was rubbish then. Now the Commodore is getting down to those figures so it is hurting too. Its always going to sell more though its just the way it is.

[GT69]

VE1 interior


VE2


BF


FG

[Bossxr8]

Bar the touch screen and different air vent shapes the VEII is identical to VE.

Can't spot much the same between BF and FG, maybe the shifter.

[ray38l]

The fg dash is the only good falcon dash, everything else before it was crap

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by ray38l

The fg dash is the only good falcon dash, everything else before it was crap

Unbelievable. The FG dash is great, but to say the other Falcon dashes were crap is....um....crap!

[ray38l]

Originally Posted by eb2monty

Unbelievable. The FG dash is great, but to say the other Falcon dashes were crap is....um....crap!

all the older ones just look cheap and boring. However it might be because i have been in too many taxis.

[naddis01]

Anyone have any figures for the Corolla? No one noticed it disappeared off the radar this month?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Anyone have any figures for the Corolla? No one noticed it disappeared off the radar this month?

In the Tech Area, Russell provided a link back on page 2 of this thread.
The part you want is below:

The month saw Focus remain in 7th place with 1,141 sold. The Holden Cruze (2,914) regained top spot ahead of the Mazda 3 (2,797), Hyundai i30 (2,479); VW Golf (1,864), Toyota Corolla (1,454); Mitsubishi Lancer (1,331), and Focus.

[ray38l]

Does anybody think that when the falcon does get the chop that ford might decide not to replace it with with another model i.e just give up on the large car segment?

[MethodX]

Give up, as they have the mondeo, just give it a V6, or a more poweful diesel.
An Awd Mondeo would be good.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by jpd80

In the Tech Area, Russell provided a link back on page 2 of this thread.
The part you want is below:

Thanks. I don't know why I didn't look there before.

So May 2011 was Corolla's worst sales month for 10 years.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Thanks. I don't know why I didn't look there before.

So May 2011 was Corolla's worst sales month for 10 years.

Yes, our Corollas are sourced from Japan and they are still having difficulties over there.

[naddis01]

Yeah Toyota is certainly feeling the impact now of the events in Japan. Only back in March this year they sold over 18000 vehicles for the month. This month they are down to 11000.

[jpd80]

But it won't always be like that and it's up to Ford and Holden to make the best of it while they can...

[naddis01]

That they do.

Just looking through the tech section figures and the few things I noticed were that most Toyota models have had a fair decrease in sales since March. The only 2 that haven't are Hilux and Camry.

2011 is Toyota's lowest YTD since 2003, Fords lowest in more than 10 years amd Holdens 2nd lowest in atleast 10 years. The only one that was worse for Holden was the GFC hit 2009.

[russellw]

The second set of statistical data is also uploaded now.

It is interesting to note the drop in sales for Toyota but it would be reasonable to assume that it is more of a supply issue in their imported range than anything else although if it continues then that may well proive to be an invalid assumption.

Cheers
Russ

[ray38l]

They are not sheep. People like what holden are offering with the commodore more then then ford with the falcon, simple as that.
There are always people who will buy because of a badge but it works both ways so you cant use that excuse as to why the falcon isn't selling

[prydey]

Originally Posted by ray38l

They are not sheep. People like what holden are offering with the commodore more then then ford with the falcon, simple as that.
There are always people who will buy because of a badge but it works both ways so you cant use that excuse as to why the falcon isn't selling

if you add the modeo wagon sales on to the falcon sales (i have no idea how many mondeo wagons sell) and take into consideration the lack of lpg or v8, i'd say falcon is doing ok. if you look back over all these doomsday v facts threads, i'm not one of the ones that thinks falcon is about to die, nor do i stick the boots in to a product that i'm a so called fan of.

[ray38l]

Originally Posted by prydey

if you add the modeo wagon sales on to the falcon sales (i have no idea how many mondeo wagons sell) and take into consideration the lack of lpg or v8, i'd say falcon is doing ok. if you look back over all these doomsday v facts threads, i'm not one of the ones that thinks falcon is about to die, nor do i stick the boots in to a product that i'm a so called fan of.

the thing is you cant add the mondeo wagon sales to falcon. It is not a falcon wagon as much as people want it to be.
I cant see the lpg model adding many customers. I think fleet buyers will just swap over from the petrol model to gas.

[Bossxr8]

Full production from go to whoa or just CKD assembly?