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Old 17-04-2010, 12:48 PM   #1
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Yeah there's a lot of conflicting debate on this -

Some say sharks in depleting numbers - others have increasing sightings and interactions.
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Old 17-04-2010, 01:01 PM   #2
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Yeah there's a lot of conflicting debate on this -

Some say sharks in depleting numbers - others have increasing sightings and interactions.
Anyone involved with sharks; scientific researches, professional fishermen etc agree shark numbers are depleting.

The debate centers around what, if anything, we do about it.
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Old 17-04-2010, 02:57 PM   #3
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ALL the professional fisherman I speak with (west coast) confirm increased sightings over the past years.

There have been increasing reported contacts more over the past years.

It is fair to say that there is no real agreement between parts of the communities on this.
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Old 17-04-2010, 04:53 PM   #4
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ALL the professional fisherman I speak with (west coast) confirm increased sightings over the past years.

There have been increasing reported contacts more over the past years.

It is fair to say that there is no real agreement between parts of the communities on this.
Yes the quota system introduced in 2000 has been successful and seen shark numbers increasing.

Thanks to those "who can get grants or stipends from guilt ridden greenie obsessed governments to waste on some wild goose chase (wild shark chase)."

More power to them.
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Old 17-04-2010, 05:02 PM   #5
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More power to them.
Less power to them please, I like my coal power plants and my car.
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Old 17-04-2010, 03:43 PM   #6
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Anyone involved with sharks; scientific researches, professional fishermen etc agree shark numbers are depleting.

The debate centers around what, if anything, we do about it.
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Anyone who can get grants or stipends from guilt ridden greenie obscessed governments to waste on some wild goose chase (wild shark chase) will agree with any finding that ensures their continued income.

Lots of professional fishermen up here don't seem to have any problems finding sharks either.
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Old 17-04-2010, 06:10 PM   #7
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Anyone involved with sharks; scientific researches, professional fishermen etc agree shark numbers are depleting.

The debate centers around what, if anything, we do about it.
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Yes the quota system introduced in 2000 has been successful and seen shark numbers increasing.

Thanks to those "who can get grants or stipends from guilt ridden greenie obsessed governments to waste on some wild goose chase (wild shark chase)."

More power to them.
If you are going to spin your loony left propaganda at least read what you have already written before contradicting yourself.
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Old 18-04-2010, 03:03 PM   #8
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If you are going to spin your loony left propaganda at least read what you have already written before contradicting yourself.
There is no contradiction between, shark numbers being depleted and shark numbers increasing compared to decade ago. It is a product of better management.

Management of our fisheries may have started out as "loony left propaganda", but is now a vital policy area for any political party that wishes to form government.

I notice with interest the current left leaning government, is legislating to remove the restrictions placed on fishing for Maco sharks, imposed by the former right leaning government. About time!

I'm not against fishing, I eat seafood every week and wish to continue to do so.
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There is no contradiction between, shark numbers being depleted and shark numbers increasing compared to decade ago. It is a product of better management.

Management of our fisheries may have started out as "loony left propaganda", but is now a vital policy area for any political party that wishes to form government.

I notice with interest the current left leaning government, is legislating to remove the restrictions placed on fishing for Maco sharks, imposed by the former right leaning government. About time!

I'm not against fishing, I eat seafood every week and wish to continue to do so.
And if you read your posts again Dr Spin you will see that in the first you wrote ARE DEPLETING and then wrote ARE INCREASING

That is the problem with telling lies in writing, there is actual evidence of it for all to see......
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Old 18-04-2010, 04:30 PM   #10
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And if you read your posts again Dr Spin you will see that in the first you wrote ARE DEPLETING and then wrote ARE INCREASING

That is the problem with telling lies in writing, there is actual evidence of it for all to see......
Forgive me I would have been clearer, had I realised I was to be placed under such scrutiny. I suspect you have no interest in understanding what I am saying, and just enjoy the semantics. Just in case you genuinely don't understand....

The number of sharks in the sea; are depleted, has gone down, are less than there used to be, are fewer in number than in the past. Even with an increase in shark numbers in the last few years, their number are way down on what they used to be.

The "experts" tell us if we wish to keep eating them,(and I do), we need to increase the number of sharks to a sustainable level.

The number of sharks in the sea; needs to increase, has to go up, wants to be more than it used to be, should be greater in number than in the past.

If this is not clear or seems contradictory, I apologise.
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Old 18-04-2010, 04:34 PM   #11
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Forgive me I would have been clearer, had I realised I was to be placed under such scrutiny. I suspect you have no interest in understanding what I am saying, and just enjoy the semantics. Just in case you genuinely don't understand....

The number of sharks in the sea; are depleted, has gone down, are less than there used to be, are fewer in number than in the past. Even with an increase in shark numbers in the last few years, their number are way down on what they used to be.

The "experts" tell us if we wish to keep eating them,(and I do), we need to increase the number of sharks to a sustainable level.

The number of sharks in the sea; needs to increase, has to go up, wants to be more than it used to be, should be greater in number than in the past.

If this is not clear or seems contradictory, I apologise.
I seen no contradiction in this or your previous posts.

But can we keep it civil please, no we will keep it civil thanks.
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