Holden V8 Sales Sizeable Increase

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by fte50

Harsh - Good point. You ever tried revving a Holden V6?
Believe as you like, but when your local management are simply not management material, what hope is there for quality. Secondly, they have tried too run so many variants (export etc) on the 1 ***. line, they have continually mixed components etc, not forgetting that for many of the proccess workers (no disrespect to them) they dont know the difference from an intake valve to a ball valve. There simply isnt any ownership.
As for the machines tolerances, lets just say that they WERE/ARE the cheapest machine tooling option available at the time for that particular purpose and tolerances are now somewhat of a dismal memory. Im sure you would also love to know that the machines had error proofing stations to reduce scrap rates and improve quality etc, but guess what - m.e. (manufacturing engineering) removed them.
Finally, if you dont get what i mean about bore/stroke ratio, do some learning and grow a moustache first before you pass judgement and decide somethings baloney. Simple as that.

Interesting you mention this point. Recently Holden announced an export deal for the HFV6 to south america where they build a chevy small suv (can't remember name). I checked out the specs on that car on a US site and it is basically the 190kw HFV6 we have now (or is that 195??). At the same time holden has people spinning the fact that a DI 3.0 and DI 3.6 V6 will be coming down the line very soon, and to my knowledge they still do the 3.2 and 2.8 (with turbo) for SAAB. Open also uses the 2.8 T V6 on the new insignia VXR. How many different types can you get down one line before confusion results. If that chinese deal goes through (plus the south american deal) that means you are building 2.8T, 3.0DI, 3.2 (Di??), 3.6, 3.6DI all one one line. Surely some rationalisation woudl be good....too bad HOlden is GMs beatch and have to build whatever each division wants.

Much was made when Ford decided to build just one atmo I6, and the XR6 lost its bespoke engine. Ford excuse was to quote the I6T as the new six performance king but i was a bit miffed myself tobe honest. BUT at least ford got the benefit of simplifying the production line even more. When territory goes over to the FG engines that will make it even easier. No such luck for HOlden.