anyone racing at WSID wed 31 may ??

[Mr. CVE]

I will be in sydney that week and am thinking of running my 3V ghia that night.
anyone wanna come out and say hi ?

as I have never raced at WSID before, some hints would be nice.
If nothing else would be good to see a quick 3V.

The left lane generally reads a minutly higher mph. ;)

[nugget378]

The right lane generally has better grip to the 60',well for me anyway.

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Originally Posted by BlackLS

The left lane generally reads a minutly higher mph. ;)

More like the right lane reads about 2mph low and left is on the money well the last 2 times was like that.

The only tip is dont give the short old stroppy staging lane marshal any lip he's very fradgile. :

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by Lowride260

More like the right lane reads about 2mph low and left is on the money well the last 2 times was like that.

The only tip is dont give the short old stroppy staging lane marshal any lip he's very fradgile. :

Hahhahaha

[MYV8]

Originally Posted by Lowride260

More like the right lane reads about 2mph low and left is on the money well the last 2 times was like that.

The only tip is dont give the short old stroppy staging lane marshal any lip he's very fradgile. :

Been there, done that. hahahaha. He's an a$$hole. : :
P.S. don't forget to fasten you helmet and drive with your head facing the sky, or risk a poke in the throat with a big dirty finger. : :

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by MYV8

Been there, done that. hahahaha. He's an a$$hole. : :
P.S. don't forget to fasten you helmet and drive with your head facing the sky, or risk a poke in the throat with a big dirty finger. : :

What ever you do don't grab that finger, it'll really him off. I made that mistake when he just walked up and grabbed my strap and poked a finger in till i grabbed it and tried to take it home, once i realized who he was i knew i was in the sh&t.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by BlackLS

The left lane generally reads a minutly higher mph. ;)

how did you come up with that?

[4vxc]

[QUOTE=Lowride260]More like the right lane reads about 2mph low and left is on the money well the last 2 times was like that.

or that?

[Mr. CVE]

well, i'll see ya there, i'll be the only BA ghia there with vic no plates !!

[GRUNTA]

Originally Posted by v8capri

well, i'll see ya there, i'll be the only BA ghia there with vic no plates !!

Mate there's a few of us heading out there tomorrow from the xr6turbo forum so when you get out there tell them your with the xr6turbo guys as we have a private lane organised come and join in and have some fun,i'l be in the blk MKII GT with silver stripes

CYA JEFF

[Mr. CVE]

Thanks, unfortunately I didn't get this message in time, still had a ball
13.52 for a 3v Ghia very happy with that.

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by v8capri

Thanks, unfortunately I didn't get this message in time, still had a ball
13.52 for a 3v Ghia very happy with that.

Well done mate, i had planned to come out to watch but i ended up breaking 3 toes tonight. As much as i dont want to i'll have to go to the doctor's tomorrow and get 1 fixed as it's broken the skin quite badly.

Was there much of a turnout for the Ba clan.

[Mr. CVE]

yeah there were quite a few ba's mainly turbo 6's.
I beat some gen 3's which was the icing on the cake !

[QUOTE=4vxc]

Originally Posted by Lowride260

More like the right lane reads about 2mph low and left is on the money well the last 2 times was like that.

or that?

Its a general well known fact about WSID.

A few people I know who run very consistant times and more importantly MPH is on average 2 or 3 MPH higher in the left lane than the right at WSID.

[sfr rob]

Well done Paul, some damn good times for a "luxobarge" ghia as you call her!

How did the Gen3 guys cope with getting beat?

We have to race soon.

[Mr. CVE]

well interestingly enough, i ran the left and the right lane, both 102 mph

[Stav]

Good going mate.You show those nasty gen 3's whos boss. out:

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Originally Posted by v8capri

well interestingly enough, i ran the left and the right lane, both 102 mph

Thats good to hear, a while back someone point out to WSID that there trapspeeds were out. Found out that sometimes the beam box's get hit/knocked and puts them out a bit but for the street meets they dont realy bother to check them untill someone pulls them up or there is a big meet on happens quiet often.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by BlackLS

Its a general well known fact about WSID.

A few people I know who run very consistant times and more importantly MPH is on average 2 or 3 MPH higher in the left lane than the right at WSID.

well known by who? I have done hundreds of passes at WSID and the speed is the same in both lanes always from qualifying right through eliminations. Another urban myth.

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Originally Posted by 4vxc

well known by who? I have done hundreds of passes at WSID and the speed is the same in both lanes always from qualifying right through eliminations. Another urban myth.

The person who braught this to my attention races super street (current aussy champ), he mentioned this to WSID and they explained what can happen to the beam box's.
How about go getting your self a trap speed chart and see for your self simple physics to determain your exact mph.
Just because its a world class track dosnt mean its perfect, nocking the beams can throw out mph for some cars but not others because of what part of the car its hitting, very precice timing equipment therefor much be set precicly. Street meets they couldnt care less, aint talking about comp meets.

Not always out out of about 20 time Ive been there in the last year its been out about 4-5 times and always noticed after a big meet its on the money.

[MYV8]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

well known by who? I have done hundreds of passes at WSID and the speed is the same in both lanes always from qualifying right through eliminations. Another urban myth.

I have done plenty of comparisons while racing Lowride260 and some nights it is not the correct mph in right lane.
If the car in the right lane does the last 320' quicker than the car in the left lane and is pulling away slightly while crossing the line, how can it be doing 2-3 mph slower according to the time slip????
This has happened several times, doesn't matter whether it is Wade or myself in the right lane.
Explain how this is possible and I might go along with the urban myth theory.

[Mr. CVE]

Well I may explain a couple things, The beams are supposed to be tripped by the front wheels. Some cars these days have spoliers that low that they can trip the beams, there fore if it just trips them they may sometimes trip from the wheels and sometimes trip onthe spoiler. This is why in the ANDRA rules the front overhang of a car is regulated. Remember the dodge Daytona ( road runner ) of a few years ago that had massive front overhang ( yet was factory, so didn't need altering) that is when that rule was explained.
Personally i wouldn't go spreading rumors about a track, unless it was dead accurate.
You may find for all ANDRA events the beams heights and positions are realigned.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by Lowride260

The person who braught this to my attention races super street (current aussy champ), he mentioned this to WSID and they explained what can happen to the beam box's.
How about go getting your self a trap speed chart and see for your self simple physics to determain your exact mph.
Just because its a world class track dosnt mean its perfect, nocking the beams can throw out mph for some cars but not others because of what part of the car its hitting, very precice timing equipment therefor much be set precicly. Street meets they couldnt care less, aint talking about comp meets.

Not always out out of about 20 time Ive been there in the last year its been out about 4-5 times and always noticed after a big meet its on the money.

I also race S/ST and haven't seen Matt Trelaor (National champ) race at WSID ever. Are you sure you dont mean Steve in the Commodore? Steve logs everything on each run, he gets heaps more info than the time slip provides, I didn't know he had mph variances however, I certainly haven't.
Since I have only raced at ANDRA events where the beams must be tripped by the tyres only it does point to the possibility that the low street cars are tripping the beams with front spoilers before the tyres.

[MYV8]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

I also race S/ST and haven't seen Matt Trelaor (National champ) race at WSID ever. Are you sure you dont mean Steve in the Commodore? Steve logs everything on each run, he gets heaps more info than the time slip provides, I didn't know he had mph variances however, I certainly haven't.
Since I have only raced at ANDRA events where the beams must be tripped by the tyres only it does point to the possibility that the low street cars are tripping the beams with front spoilers before the tyres.

He is talking about Steve.
I believe that they set the beams up correctly for the ANDRA events and there is no error there, but for the Wed nights it is a different matter. Steve quite often races on Wed nights and has said on several occasions that the mph is not correct.
He has come up with a calculator for checking your trap speed and with his background in physics and the datalogging he does, I would not disagree with him.
He has also said that he has something in writing from WSID which explains the problem.
He has talked about this at length on another forum he participates in.
Next time you see him ask him about the problem.

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Originally Posted by 4vxc

I also race S/ST and haven't seen Matt Trelaor (National champ) race at WSID ever. Are you sure you dont mean Steve in the Commodore? Steve logs everything on each run, he gets heaps more info than the time slip provides, I didn't know he had mph variances however, I certainly haven't.
Since I have only raced at ANDRA events where the beams must be tripped by the tyres only it does point to the possibility that the low street cars are tripping the beams with front spoilers before the tyres.

Yeh I was talking about Steve and from memory it was something to do with the low front spoilers creating a variance.

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Originally Posted by v8capri

Personally i wouldn't go spreading rumors about a track, unless it was dead accurate.
You may find for all ANDRA events the beams heights and positions are realigned.

Aint spreading rumors Paul just facts as MYV8 said when we have raced we have been side by side no difference in speed at all but time slip show 2-3mph difference between the two cars. From the 1000ft to 1320ft we both take exactly the same time to travel that distance what does that tell you.
And as I said before its always on the money after a big meet as the big boys will pick it up straight away if its out.

[4vxc]

thought it must be Steve, he races hard . He beat me by a few hundreths in the semis at his first bracket meet and has done very well since. I know he uses wednesday nights as a test bed for bracket meets and if the traps were out he would know. If thats whats happening at street meets you should complain. Even though its only grudge racing you want to know exactly whats going on with your car.

[Mr. CVE]

Sorry didn't mean it like that, just other people take some of this as gospel,by rights the beams almost should be set lower for street meets

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Originally Posted by 4vxc

thought it must be Steve, he races hard . He beat me by a few hundreths in the semis at his first bracket meet and has done very well since. I know he uses wednesday nights as a test bed for bracket meets and if the traps were out he would know. If thats whats happening at street meets you should complain. Even though its only grudge racing you want to know exactly whats going on with your car.

Yeh proberly should complain but as i said it only happens every now and then but in the future I going to run mostly at the test & tune days and you would think its accurate then considering all the comp cars running.