Fpv Bfmkii Range Unleashed!!!

[spatel]

SEE www.fpv.com.au of new FPV BFMKII Range hot of the press!!!
Im liking what I see but power is still the same. 290kW for BOSS V8.
Enjoy!!!

[347_XR8]

Just got an email.....I WANT A FORCE 8 FOR A COMPANY CAR! HSV Grange...eat your heart out!

[Polyal]

Meh.....

[Orbit]

the new F6 rims look pretty good IMO....the rest of the package i think is a bit sus for market space....i also think there are too many FPV options now...

[GT595]

That Force 8 looks sensational - love the dove tail rear/red leather interior.....
Dont mind the new striping on the GT/Super Pur either they have done well.

[AnthonyQLD]

Originally Posted by GT595

Dont mind the new striping on the GT/Super Pur either they have done well.

Same here.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Meh.....

Excuse my ignorance but what does this term mean?

[Grasshoppr]

^^^ kinda like "whatever"

Well they have made them look great... again

[RavenLS1]

Originally Posted by HSE2

Excuse my ignorance but what does this term mean?

exactly that...meh...

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by HSE2

Excuse my ignorance but what does this term mean?

As in boring. Its not exciting, its not different, its not new. Other than that they are doing really well.
:nutsycuck

Look, I know they are selling alright (although what are the figures, no one seems to know), but seriously, one tires of lame attempts to freshen up a range.

I think you have some issues when your core market isn't that impressed with a new model.

Yeah its better than nothing, but the money, or lack of it, spent on doing the force series would have been better spent in getting some quality options for the exsiting range.

Try, just try and offer something HSV doesn't. Its only the blue noses that well be happy with the latest offerings.

[Morpheus]

anyone else having problems with the configure my FPV section? It keeps stuffing up for me...

[ClevlndStemer]

nothing special, goodluck to them

[photn]

only available in a AUTO??? must be a luxury thing

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by spatel

SEE www.fpv.com.au of new FPV BFMKII Range hot of the press!!!
Im liking what I see but power is still the same. 290kW for BOSS V8.
Enjoy!!!

I'm liking what I see too, as it's basically what I bought last year. Zzzzzz.

[jimmy_c]

71,000 k for a body kit and Fairmont Ghia Seats. :

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by jimmy_c

71,000 k for a body kit. Jeeze

You would think it would be less as the rear spoiler is alot smaller.

[poolkeeper]

So what does force mean?

[bigAl]

Fpv's
obivios
Rebadging
Cars
Expensive
?

[Boss 290]

they look good but i was hoping that they would mention something about the car being improved in the rev range....i expected the force models to be more then the other because they are luxury models

[NC 5ltr]

I like the look of the phoons new 18inch wheels..the force dont appeal to me that much but whack a phoon wing on either force and they would look alot better in my eyes.

[XzLr8]

that force looks mint but red leather seats??? wtf were they thinking and for 71 k i just dont think sooooo, and the new gt-p wheels look horn. but nothing over the top from ford.

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by NC 5ltr

I like the look of the phoons new 18inch wheels..the force dont appeal to me that much but whack a phoon wing on either force and they would look alot better in my eyes.

Look a lot better? Or look like a GT with F6 wheels?

Yawn. Fair enough, there's a slot for a performance luxo car (whoops, almost said barge). But it's a pretty half arsed effort. New seats and badges is about all at the end of the day. You don't even get unique wheels for your $72k.

[flappist]

The Force is a range for people who want the go without the show. There is no point in being able to perform if every time you do you get rolled.......

I think it is a great idea and my next FPV will probably be one.

It amuses me that almost everyone who has derided the BF2 does not drive a FPV.
FPV are in the business of SELLING cars, and they seem quite good at that, not making adolecent mastabatory fantasies that are the subject of fanatical tribalistic worship by ignorant peasants. (that is HSVs job)

I wonder just how many former FPV owners have churned to another marque and of those who did how many actually went sideways to Holden or Chrysler rather than up to AMG, BMW M or whatever? Maybe they might come back.

I am also amused by the constant "orion" references. Orion will save us. Orion will be the messiah that will lead us on the path of righteousness.
The last MAJOR platform change was the end of the "E" series and we got the AU. I nearly deferred buying my EL Ghia because I was aware that the new model was coming out in a few months. When I saw the AU1 I was SO happy I did not wait.

I doubt that the same situation will be repeated but then again.......

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by flappist

The Force is a range for people who want the go without the show. There is no point in being able to perform if every time you do you get rolled.......

I think it is a great idea and my next FPV will probably be one.

It amuses me that almost everyone who has derided the BF2 does not drive a FPV.

Why has Ford felt the urge to start a whole new model?

Lets face facts, these cars are just GT's or F6's without the rear spoiler, have slightly different seats (that if based of the ghia ones are less supportive than the FPV ones) and have different badging; oh and they dont have stripes but I bet some owners will put them on anyway.

Why didn't they just make all of these options. If I am spending ~60-70k on my falcon then I should be able to choose between two different spoilers and what interior I want.

I would probably stop bagging them if the front end atleast (since thats the only new thing in the BF range that is distinguishable) was like the BF2 Ghia, and then just with a more aggressive bumper to match the FPV look.

Also you dont need to have owned an FPV to have an informed opinion about it. There are thousands of other ways to have "experienced" a FPV.

I own an EL Ghia, like yourself previously, and in the not to distant future I will own a FPV if they are still around, so its not like I am that far off the target market other than age. So to completely dismiss ones opinion based on previous ownership is not right.

[futura]

How can someone justify paying another 7-8 thousand for a Force 6/8 on top of the base models GT and F6??

Anyone would think they would be cheaper not having a rear spoiler

Buy yourself a GT or Typhoon, remove the spoiler, get a few Force badges of e-bay and you got yourself a Force 6/8. _2:

[boss-290]

Those gold stripes are a creamer :

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Why has Ford felt the urge to start a whole new model?

Lets face facts, these cars are just GT's or F6's without the rear spoiler, have slightly different seats (that if based of the ghia ones are less supportive than the FPV ones) and have different badging; oh and they dont have stripes but I bet some owners will put them on anyway.

Why didn't they just make all of these options. If I am spending ~60-70k on my falcon then I should be able to choose between two different spoilers and what interior I want.

I would probably stop bagging them if the front end atleast (since thats the only new thing in the BF range that is distinguishable) was like the BF2 Ghia, and then just with a more aggressive bumper to match the FPV look.

Also you dont need to have owned an FPV to have an informed opinion about it. There are thousands of other ways to have "experienced" a FPV.

I own an EL Ghia, like yourself previously, and in the not to distant future I will own a FPV if they are still around, so its not like I am that far off the target market other than age. So to completely dismiss ones opinion based on previous ownership is not right.

What is the difference between a Fairmont Ghia and a XT?
Nothing at all, just a few bits of plastic and seats and wheels and stuff.
You want a bling bling FPV, I do not. This means that FPV sell two cars, one of each.
If you hate the Force then don't buy one. It is not as though FPV are dropping the Typhoon or GT. They are just alternatives.
I nearly cancelled my original order for my GT-P when I was mistakenly told that stripes were mandatory. I don't like stripes. Others do. If they like them, they order them, that is their choice.

The statements made above about the GT or GT-P or F6 being the same car with different stripes only highlights that none of them have actually driven all the different models.

A GT and a GT-P drive and feel totally different. Even if you option up a GT with all the GT-P bits that you can they are STILL totally different.
Drive a GT for 10 hours and then drive a GT-P, you will understand.

I have a GT-P interior in my F6. I aquired it to replace the leather F6 interior because it is THAT MUCH BETTER to drive in. Others may not like it but I do and as I spend about 800 hours a year driving i.e. 16 hours a week or so, I want the most comfortable ergonomic platform I can.
When I sell the F6 I will restore the original interior and sell the GT-P one or use it in something else.
I also have different, springs, cambre kit, shockies and tyres all of which are more suited to highway driving. Other than a filter my drive train has no bolt on modifications because it goes fast enough......

I would remove the front body kit and wing if I could without spending money as the front is constantly scraping the ground and the wing just an impedement to rear vision.

I buy cars to drive, not to show, or pose, or love, or spend hours cleaning and polishing.
Others like to do those things and that is their choice.

I have not driven a Force yet but if it has a "good" an interior as the GT-P and it performs as well as a F6 and it is subtle and unobvious as a Ghia then IT IS MY TYPE OF CAR.

Why is this wrong? Why must I be forced to buy something that is not exactly what I want?

I had a Ghia.
I wanted more performance.
I bought a blueprint GT-P. It was great except it drew too much attention.
I sold it and bought a basic F6.
It went better but did not stop and was a bit "povvo" inside.
I sold it and bought another F6 in lightning strike with brembos, leather, satnav etc.
It is great and also draws much less attention.
I missed my GT-P seats so I bought a GT-P interior.
Now FPV have released what I think is my perfect car......

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by flappist

What is the difference between a Fairmont Ghia and a XT?
Nothing at all, just a few bits of plastic and seats and wheels and stuff.
You want a bling bling FPV, I do not. This means that FPV sell two cars, one of each.
If you hate the Force then don't buy one. It is not as though FPV are dropping the Typhoon or GT. They are just alternatives.
I nearly cancelled my original order for my GT-P when I was mistakenly told that stripes were mandatory. I don't like stripes. Others do. If they like them, they order them, that is their choice.

The statements made above about the GT or GT-P or F6 being the same car with different stripes only highlights that none of them have actually driven all the different models.

A GT and a GT-P drive and feel totally different. Even if you option up a GT with all the GT-P bits that you can they are STILL totally different.
Drive a GT for 10 hours and then drive a GT-P, you will understand.

I have a GT-P interior in my F6. I aquired it to replace the leather F6 interior because it is THAT MUCH BETTER to drive in. Others may not like it but I do and as I spend about 800 hours a year driving i.e. 16 hours a week or so, I want the most comfortable ergonomic platform I can.
When I sell the F6 I will restore the original interior and sell the GT-P one or use it in something else.
I also have different, springs, cambre kit, shockies and tyres all of which are more suited to highway driving. Other than a filter my drive train has no bolt on modifications because it goes fast enough......

I would remove the front body kit and wing if I could without spending money as the front is constantly scraping the ground and the wing just an impedement to rear vision.

I buy cars to drive, not to show, or pose, or love, or spend hours cleaning and polishing.
Others like to do those things and that is their choice.

I have not driven a Force yet but if it has a "good" an interior as the GT-P and it performs as well as a F6 and it is subtle and unobvious as a Ghia then IT IS MY TYPE OF CAR.

Why is this wrong? Why must I be forced to buy something that is not exactly what I want?

I had a Ghia.
I wanted more performance.
I bought a blueprint GT-P. It was great except it drew too much attention.
I sold it and bought a basic F6.
It went better but did not stop and was a bit "povvo" inside.
I sold it and bought another F6 in lightning strike with brembos, leather, satnav etc.
It is great and also draws much less attention.
I missed my GT-P seats so I bought a GT-P interior.
Now FPV have released what I think is my perfect car......

Hmm perhaps I came across harshly.

I think the concept of the Force is good, and way over due, but I think the lack of effort in this cars is appauling.

I have nothing against the mechanical package, or how it looks or goes, but Ford rant on how its based off a Ghia and it looks nothing like one. An FPV version of a BF2 Ghia would be hot! It would then be distinguishable from all other FPV's and XR's and have its own little spot as it should have when its meant to be the most expensive model you can get.

Im not after bling, but what sucks is that whats stopping someone from getting a GT/F6, saying hold the rear spioiler and stipes and wala; you have a Force. That would **** me off if I was a Force owner, where is the incentive to buy the best Henry has to offer?

I dont want to harp on to much about the manual thing, but just wait for the Wheels and Motor magazines to do a comparison. Its going to get mauled. Now, im pretty sure HSV dont offer a manual on the Senator, but so what, if Ford did then that would give those who want to change gears for themselves the option, and could sway someone into buying one.

Remembering back to BFYB's or an award like that, the XR6T manual got in just because it is so much fun to drive, no other car had a manual and auto version in the same tests as seperate contestants.

[YOOT]

Originally Posted by flappist

What is the difference between a Fairmont Ghia and a XT?
Nothing at all, just a few bits of plastic and seats and wheels and stuff.
You want a bling bling FPV, I do not. This means that FPV sell two cars, one of each.
If you hate the Force then don't buy one. It is not as though FPV are dropping the Typhoon or GT. They are just alternatives.
I nearly cancelled my original order for my GT-P when I was mistakenly told that stripes were mandatory. I don't like stripes. Others do. If they like them, they order them, that is their choice.

The statements made above about the GT or GT-P or F6 being the same car with different stripes only highlights that none of them have actually driven all the different models.

A GT and a GT-P drive and feel totally different. Even if you option up a GT with all the GT-P bits that you can they are STILL totally different.
Drive a GT for 10 hours and then drive a GT-P, you will understand.

I have a GT-P interior in my F6. I aquired it to replace the leather F6 interior because it is THAT MUCH BETTER to drive in. Others may not like it but I do and as I spend about 800 hours a year driving i.e. 16 hours a week or so, I want the most comfortable ergonomic platform I can.
When I sell the F6 I will restore the original interior and sell the GT-P one or use it in something else.
I also have different, springs, cambre kit, shockies and tyres all of which are more suited to highway driving. Other than a filter my drive train has no bolt on modifications because it goes fast enough......

I would remove the front body kit and wing if I could without spending money as the front is constantly scraping the ground and the wing just an impedement to rear vision.

I buy cars to drive, not to show, or pose, or love, or spend hours cleaning and polishing.
Others like to do those things and that is their choice.

I have not driven a Force yet but if it has a "good" an interior as the GT-P and it performs as well as a F6 and it is subtle and unobvious as a Ghia then IT IS MY TYPE OF CAR.

Why is this wrong? Why must I be forced to buy something that is not exactly what I want?

I had a Ghia.
I wanted more performance.
I bought a blueprint GT-P. It was great except it drew too much attention.
I sold it and bought a basic F6.
It went better but did not stop and was a bit "povvo" inside.
I sold it and bought another F6 in lightning strike with brembos, leather, satnav etc.
It is great and also draws much less attention.
I missed my GT-P seats so I bought a GT-P interior.
Now FPV have released what I think is my perfect car......

Woohoo, so FPV have at least one potential sale for a rebaged GHIA/GT hybrid parts-bin-monstrosity :

[owl]

Originally Posted by YOOT

Woohoo, so FPV have at least one potential sale for a rebaged GHIA/GT hybrid parts-bin-monstrosity :

you read my mind