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23-06-2009, 02:20 PM | #1 | |||
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23-06-2009, 02:24 PM | #2 | ||
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23-06-2009, 02:24 PM | #3 | |||
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Car advice article.
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23-06-2009, 02:59 PM | #4 | ||
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should be sooner!
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23-06-2009, 03:39 PM | #5 | |||
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23-06-2009, 03:07 PM | #6 | ||
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still what about all the older cars out there? probably wont see the results their after till after a few years. not everyone can afford a new car.
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23-06-2009, 04:04 PM | #7 | |||
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Go Auto Article
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24-06-2009, 11:32 AM | #8 | |||
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Utes will not be required to have DSC/ESP/ESC.
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24-06-2009, 11:46 AM | #9 | ||
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Isn't this the new thing they have been flogging on the radio and TV laterly?
(Those new TAC ads with the ABC guy)
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24-06-2009, 05:55 PM | #10 | ||
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Learn to drive!
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24-06-2009, 06:09 PM | #11 | |||
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24-06-2009, 06:20 PM | #12 | |||
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Ok, so all new cars will have it, but will you be able to turn it off? (like you can in most of euro/jap cars)
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24-06-2009, 06:39 PM | #13 | |||
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26-06-2009, 12:50 PM | #14 | ||
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Sounds like a terrible idea to me. The last thing I need is a computer telling me what I can and can't do in my own car. ABS is bad enough.
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26-06-2009, 01:08 PM | #15 | ||
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Only going to be a matter of time before some hero in his E Series on Super Lows starts complaining about how he doesn't want his super race car driver skills controlled by a computer.
I've been driving cars for years with DSC fitted standard or optional. All able to be switched off and all incredibly fun to drive. DSC saved my **** when I was 21 and probably that of my passenger mate. It only needs to save your life once to be worthwhile. This is a pointless argument from all the heroes. It's a no brainer.
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26-06-2009, 01:15 PM | #16 | |||
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If it saves my *** from some moron losing control into me then I'm happy.
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26-06-2009, 10:26 PM | #17 | |||
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That may not only have helped him,. but stopped him spinning into another car potentially. Genius system.
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26-06-2009, 01:12 PM | #18 | ||
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Good idea, because most people are morons and don't know how to drive.
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27-06-2009, 01:43 AM | #19 | ||
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My wife came across a blind over the crest style T interestion in her new fiesta out in the bush recently (I was half asleep in the passenger seat). Pulling a almost full lock 90 degree turn about 12 meters away from a gravel/tree/fence with all 4 wheels gently screeching at 90km/h was a sight for sleepy eyes I can tell you she's no race driver but the car stayed perfectly stable and straight. Very happy she has that in the car otherwise it was a long walk to the nearest farmhouse that day, possibly with a sore face from the 50 air bags in the thing
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27-06-2009, 05:47 AM | #20 | |||
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27-06-2009, 11:26 AM | #21 | ||
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This is happening because the VICTORIAN government FIRST signaled its intention to create these as state-based laws, >>> for the the purposes of registration & saleability in that state.
Credit therefore goes to Pallas, for using 'states rights', to now effectively improve the national requirements at ADR level.
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ORDER FORD AUSTRALIA PART NO: AM6U7J19G329AA. This is a European-UN/AS3790B Spec safety-warning triangle used to give advanced warning to approaching traffic of a vehicle breakdown, or crash scene (to prevent secondary). Stow in the boot area. See your Ford dealer for this $35.95 safety item & when you buy a new Ford, please insist on it! See Page 83, part 4.4.1 http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafePart4.pdf Last edited by Keepleft; 27-06-2009 at 11:35 AM. |
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27-06-2009, 11:54 AM | #22 | ||
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its probably a good thing but i can`t help thinking they are actually going to be taking our driving skills away in one sense, what will happen when mrs bloggs living in ballarat known for slippery roads for example car is in the shop getting work done and loaner is an early model with out all the new gadgets.
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27-06-2009, 12:28 PM | #23 | ||
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On dirt roads it really takes alot of the speed and fun out of driving . EBD ABS send you off in funny directions when you try to do interesting flicks (it especially likes to send you straight), so either you get used to using no brakes in your setup for corners, or you pull fuses, which I do. :-) And I would certainly be pulling fuses on any stability control let me tell you!!
It is also a way to make cars cheaper and dynamically worse as the electronics hide the rest of the cars abilities. If I was to like a car in the future, it would have to be built and tuned without these electronic aids first, then have them tuned in later. |
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27-06-2009, 12:41 PM | #24 | ||
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Yayup, I recall an Audi with a "TC OFF" switch!
You watch ED, within a year or so after 2010/11 - they'll pass law prohibiting you from removing or willfully disrupting ADR complianced driving aids. Guarantee it. Actually; if an ADR complianced function is defeated, then the car is defectable, mutter mutter..... well mebbe so under NVS (post ADR process).... mutter mutter . . . mmmmm
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ORDER FORD AUSTRALIA PART NO: AM6U7J19G329AA. This is a European-UN/AS3790B Spec safety-warning triangle used to give advanced warning to approaching traffic of a vehicle breakdown, or crash scene (to prevent secondary). Stow in the boot area. See your Ford dealer for this $35.95 safety item & when you buy a new Ford, please insist on it! See Page 83, part 4.4.1 http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafePart4.pdf |
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27-06-2009, 12:45 PM | #25 | |||
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That means the car manufactures will design the cars so if you disable an aid the car wont work. The europeans already do this. Eg take out the DSC fuse and disable the fuel pump.
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27-06-2009, 04:46 PM | #26 | ||
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I dont like the phrasing of this measure. A lot of the small "specials" builders that I like (Elfin, PRB, Joss, Robnell, etc) can't afford to get this done. I'd like to see it where any company that sells 25-50 vehicles a year doesn't have to comply.
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29-06-2009, 04:44 PM | #27 | |||
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29-06-2009, 07:28 PM | #28 | ||
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And second to Streets, Dick Johnsons may also want to drive a car built after the 20th century that's equipped with DSC and discover that in most cases, to activate the DSC you actually have to be pushing WAY beyond what most punters will ever do on a public road.
Great news, there's a manufacturer that tunes its sportier models with a far more forgiving DSC system, to suit what the intended driver would probably prefer. Hint: They have a Blue Oval...
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13-07-2009, 06:20 PM | #29 | |||
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Engineers urge mandatory ESC on commercial vehicles
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20-07-2009, 04:50 PM | #30 | |||
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Re-think on compulsory ESC for LCVs
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