How Many FPVs?

[Des Flurane]

Sure this must have been asked before but couldn't find the right question for the search engine.
Are there published figures or do you have to rely on the highest number 'fessing up?

[sleekism]

I think 2006 was about 2400 FPV's to HSV's 3300.

2005 I think FPV just edged out HSV

[outback_ute]

Each model has its own numbering sequence, so that won't necessarily help. The latest info I have seen from earlier in the year (which was a colour breakdown of GTs only) had 2405 BA Mk1, 1194 BA Mk2, 1038 BF Mk1 & 659 BF Mk2 - this last number will be higher now of course. So at that stage 5300 GTs total, then you have to add the utes & F6 cars. Since BF I understand that F6's have sold at least in equal numbers to GTs.

[Tezbo-BAXR8]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Each model has its own numbering sequence, so that won't necessarily help. The latest info I have seen from earlier in the year (which was a colour breakdown of GTs only) had 2405 BA Mk1, 1194 BA Mk2, 1038 BF Mk1 & 659 BF Mk2 - this last number will be higher now of course. So at that stage 5300 GTs total, then you have to add the utes & F6 cars. Since BF I understand that F6's have sold at least in equal numbers to sGTs.

Hi Outback ute,
Very handy info on the BA and BF numbers, I was wondering would you know of anyone know that would know how many FG GTs were made. Thinkin of buyin one one day and just wondering are the FG GT-Ps any better than the GT and have the same motors.

Just trying do do my homework early. Love the Boss 315, but I'm also considering bringing a 4.6 litre alloy block from the states. Stroked to 5.2 they can get 800 horses. I was toying with the alloy motor idea for years and hopefully I can make it happen. I'll do a lot more research and keep all posted.

Cheers,
Tez

[Oldbugger]

These are the production volumes that I have. I cannot break it down any lower (colour, trans etc).

History of GT and FPV
Model Varient Volume
XT GT 1415
XW GT 2287
XW GTHO 662
XY GT 1557
XY GTHO 300
XA GT Sedan 1868
XA GT Hardtop 891
XB GT Sedan 1950
XB GT Hardtop 949
EL GT 272
BA GT 1306
BA GTP 1103
BA2 GT 778
BA2 GTP 417
BA2 Typhoon 513
BF GT 672
BF GTP 361
BF Typhoon 757
BF2 GT 1370
BF2 GTP 254
BF2 Typhoon 792
FG GT 1112
FG GTP 292
FG GTE 141
FG F6E 61
FG Typhoon 1085
FG (EU4) GS 341
FG (EU4) GT 732
FG (EU4) GTP 200
FG (EU4) GTE 60
FG (EU4) F6E 38
FG (EU4) F6 388
FG2 GS 148
FG2 GT 1336
FG2 GTP 220
FG2 GTE 59
FG2 GTF 550
FG2 F6E 15
FG2 F6 468

[Whitey-AMG]

Im thinking you got the BF and BF2 GT numbers mixed up ?
Must be stacks more BF1 than BF2 GTs made.

[Oldbugger]

Here are the volumes by years.

BA2 GT Vol 189 Yr 2004
BA2 GT Vol 589 Yr 2005
BF GT Vol 192 Yr 2005
BF GT Vol 480 Yr 2006
BF2 GT Vol 141 Yr 2006
BF2 GT Vol 1025 Yr 2007
BF2 GT Vol 204 Yr 2008

[NTF6]

Originally Posted by Oldbugger

These are the production volumes that I have. I cannot break it down any lower (colour, trans etc).

History of GT and FPV
Model Varient Volume
XT GT 1415
XW GT 2287
XW GTHO 662
XY GT 1557
XY GTHO 300
XA GT Sedan 1868
XA GT Hardtop 891
XB GT Sedan 1950
XB GT Hardtop 949
EL GT 272
BA GT 1306
BA GTP 1103
BA2 GT 778
BA2 GTP 417
BA2 Typhoon 513
BF GT 672
BF GTP 361
BF Typhoon 757
BF2 GT 1370
BF2 GTP 254
BF2 Typhoon 792
FG GT 1112
FG GTP 292
FG GTE 141
FG F6E 61
FG Typhoon 1085
FG (EU4) GS 341
FG (EU4) GT 732
FG (EU4) GTP 200
FG (EU4) GTE 60
FG (EU4) F6E 38
FG (EU4) F6 388
FG2 GS 148
FG2 GT 1336
FG2 GTP 220
FG2 GTE 59
FG2 GTF 550
FG2 F6E 15
FG2 F6 468

FG F6 (388)
FG2 F6 (468)

These build numbers must run sequential for these cars as my FG2 F6 is build 576, which goes against what someone said before when the model changes the count restarts.

[STEALTHY]

Originally Posted by NTF6

FG F6 (388)
FG2 F6 (468)

These build numbers must run sequential for these cars as my FG2 F6 is build 576, which goes against what someone said before when the model changes the count restarts.

All FG MK II FPVs run sequential. No MK II (other than limited editions) had a build number 1

This is the only series its applicable for though. All the others reset with the series (BA1, BA2, BF1, BF2, FG1, FG MY10)

[Des Flurane]

Thanks for that.
Never heard of a number over the thousand mark, but I guess they must be plenty out there.

[superpursuit83]

96 (poss 93) BAII FPV Super pursuits were built. From June 05 until the BF took over.

[S/P BLUTE]

Originally Posted by superpursuit83

96 (poss 93) BAII FPV Super pursuits were built. From June 05 until the BF took over.

Iv'e got BFII #0096 :

[outback_ute]

Also 518 BA2 Typhoons before the BF took over.

[Des Flurane]

Those SuperPursuits are going to be the collectors car for the future.

[superpursuit83]

Originally Posted by Des Flurane

Those SuperPursuits are going to be the collectors car for the future.

I am hoping, going to keep it anyway. Will be my weekend toy end of next year. :evil3:

[flappist]

I have seen BA GTs with build numbers over 1000.
In the beginning there were only 3 models GT, GT-P & Pursuit. Gradually as new models were added the actual numbers of each dropped as people chose a different permutation that more suited their requirements.
Now we have a choice of GT, GT-P, Pursuit, F6 Typhoon, F6 Tornado, Super Pursuit, Force 6, Force 8, GT 40th, F6 Typhoon R-Spec and soon Cobra.
In that lot there HAS to be something for everyone.

[JerseyVics]

Total production #'s is something I'm curious to find as well.

I'm trying also to keep track of all the different models FPV puts on the road

and they could be found on their very own registry here: www.SVTregistry.com/FPV

thanks,
--Russ

[outback_ute]

Russ, your method of using model years to categorize the cars is flawed, Australian car models are not delineated by years but the model code changes eg BA, BA MkII, BF etc.

[JerseyVics]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Russ, your method of using model years to categorize the cars is flawed, Australian car models are not delineated by years but the model code changes eg BA, BA MkII, BF etc.

I know.... I've realized that when I saw a BA Mk2 and BF MK1 for 2005 on both the GT and Super Pursuit models.


But I am learning this as I go along.


I would still like to keep the model year going even though they are coded differently (more like production year really) but devise a different plan of listing them on the site.... perhaps like you suggested using BA, BF, etc.


couple of months ago all I knew these cars were called Falcon, now look how much I'm learned, lol


thanks for the help though,
--Russ

[JerseyVics]

I've been thinking about this for a while and I must say my method of organizing the registry is not entirely flawed...


while there are BA and BF vehicles for the same year, aren't their production #'s reset every model year? basically 2004 BA MK2 and 2005 BA MK2 have separate build #'s.

Or is that not true?


I'm sure once there's more vehicles on the site and I can see patters I will redesign the set up accordingly. I'm in this for the long run, heh.

--Russ

[RG]

Originally Posted by JerseyVics

I've been thinking about this for a while and I must say my method of organizing the registry is not entirely flawed...


while there are BA and BF vehicles for the same year, aren't their production #'s reset every model year? basically 2004 BA MK2 and 2005 BA MK2 have separate build #'s.

Or is that not true?


I'm sure once there's more vehicles on the site and I can see patters I will redesign the set up accordingly. I'm in this for the long run, heh.

--Russ

Not true, the build number resets as the model code changes regardless of year. 2003 BA1 and 2004 BA1 will have ongoing numbers no matter the year. New numbers would start from BA2 then again for BF1 etc.

[JerseyVics]

Originally Posted by RedXR347

Not true, the build number resets as the model code changes regardless of year. 2003 BA1 and 2004 BA1 will have ongoing numbers no matter the year. New numbers would start from BA2 then again for BF1 etc.

I see... well back to the drawing board! lol

Thank you for that clarification!

--Russ

[data_mine]

Apparently 383 BF GT-P's, mine's numbered somewhat less than that.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by data_mine

Apparently 383 BF GT-P's, mine's numbered somewhat less than that.

This is something that has always made me question the value of special limited build runs. While ever HSV or FPV number ordinary volumes that reset on a model change they are effectively making continuous limited editions.

I am like you with a BF GT-P which actually makes our cars rarer then a Cobra. Due to the continuing changes in available colours and our cares become rarer again. The difference is obviously that one example actually starts life as a limited build run while the other ends that way by default.

People say these GTs will never be worth that of the 70 era cars. While no one in their right mind would purchase these cars as an investment it is food for thought.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by HSE2

This is something that has always made me question the value of special limited build runs. While ever HSV or FPV number ordinary volumes that reset on a model change they are effectively making continuous limited editions.

I am like you with a BF GT-P which actually makes our cars rarer then a Cobra. Due to the continuing changes in available colours and our cares become rarer again. The difference is obviously that one example actually starts life as a limited build run while the other ends that way by default.

People say these GTs will never be worth that of the 70 era cars. While no one in their right mind would purchase these cars as an investment it is food for thought.

Yes , but what does the GTP have as factory standard that no other GTP made has ??

The COBRA on the other hand will have its own numbering sequence ( 1-400 I guess ) + a 302Kw motor + unique striping package with GT Cobra insignia and the combination of the R spec suspension pack. Soa s far as BF's go.....its the ducks guts.............

Although the GT's of now may not be worth a tantalising amount in resale now.....neither were the XA or XB GT's until 5 odd years ago.

The trick is to get a rare colour / option combo regardless of GT or GTP or F6.
Things like factory / dealer fitted sunroofs,premium sound, reverse parking sensors may sound stupid now...........but 20 years from now, who knows ??????????

Either way, it will be a very long time between drinks before we see any of the B series GT's worth more than their purchase price in the 2nd hand market.......unless you own a 40th Anniversary or COBRA model that is.............

[mcnews]

Originally Posted by ESP

Either way, it will be a very long time between drinks before we see any of the B series GT's worth more than their purchase price in the 2nd hand market....

Probably when your great, great grandson celebrates his 50th wedding anniversary.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by ESP

Yes , but what does the GTP have as factory standard that no other GTP made has ??

That’s not the issue. Obviously the way the cobra has been handled is different. Limited editions especially in the performance arena need to be fully addressed as such.

With 6 piston standard and performance seats as standard the appeal just from a numbers side starts to lack. Obviously the cobra has an engine that trumps everything no question.

My comments are purely just about people that look at build numbers purely from an exclusivity point of view. Standard cars potentially can be rarer. Every GT built will end up being 1 of something and come with features that are exclusive to that generation.

[JerseyVics]

by the way... am I correct in assuming the following:


BA MK1: 2003-2004
BA MK2: 2004-2005
BF MK1: 2005-2006
BF MK2: 2006-2007

anybody has any detailed information, I used wikipedia before and they break it down by year like I did initially, does anyone have any idea how many vehicles were made for each range???


thanks,
--Russ

[Des Flurane]

Then you have when first registered!
I have a BF1 first reged 2007 January.
Go figure.

[GT-E]

I should be based on model and build date. Rego date is irrelivant as they can sit in the dealers for a long time.