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Originally Posted by MAD

There could be so many more things that influence those figures. What's the per-capita average of HIV infections in both locations? Per-capita average of homeless people in each location?
Case studies always remove all of the clutter and simplify as much as possible because it is easier to use as an example.

As I said the info wasn't referrenced so think what you want about it.

Originally Posted by MAD

So let me run with some hypothetical figures...
Lets say 5% of all road deaths are hooning related, and 80% of them are innocent people (ie. not the driver, the decision maker). That gives us about 57 people killed by the actions of a hoon.
Are those 57 not worth enough for something to be done to help curb the incidence of hooning related deaths, rather than something that looks good as a headline?
How many people killed by the decisions of a person-that-would-use-an-injecting-room have been saved by introducing injecting rooms?
What are the priorities?

I think there should be as much done about hooning as possible to reduce deaths and damage caused by hooning, but what you have suggested so far is subsidising events such as go karting, which is rewarding people for hooning.
Maybe something along the lines of putting hoons on probation/counselling, limiting the power of the cars they drive (for a period of time) and mandatory defensive/advanced driving courses, would be more appropriate. Im not sure.

Originally Posted by MAD

If you want to argue state of mind, then what effect does testosterone have on the decision making centres of the brain? If upbringing can be blamed for drug usage, can peer pressure ever be blamed for hooning?

The upbringing of a molestered or beaten child or someone who has grown up around drugs is completely different to that of a person being peer pressured to do a burnout. And I know that people take drugs for a lot of different reasons peer pressure included, but drugs have a huge effect on a person and can quickly turn into an addiction before the person realises.
No I dont think peer pressure could ever be blamed for hooning as at the end of the day you make the decision, not other people.

Originally Posted by MAD

So a drug user should get a hand out simply cause they're addicted? Didnt they ever make a choice regarding the usage of drugs, they just woke up one day addicted?

They don't get hand-outs, these programs are aimed at treating an addiction, for people who can't afford private rehab centres.
Yes they did make a decision to take drugs, however, drugs have a much greater effect on the brain and can cause serious mental illness, which needs to be treated.

Originally Posted by MAD

It's got nothing to do with rewarding people for their actions, It's about trying to find something that might actualy help reduce the incidence of it occuring.
Although positive reinforcement for good driving behaviour would be fantastic, but how do you photograph that?

As mentioned before what you have suggested is rewarding people for hooning, well it seems that way to me.
I actually think that authorities are doing quite alot to reduce hooning already. Especially if you think about how many people take drugs compared to how many people hoon.